特大新闻,2006P1有可能成为耀眼的超亮彗星!!!!!
随着C/2006 P1 (McNaught)逐渐接近太阳,地面已经失去观测的条件,最后一次地面报道是在2006年11月26日,亮度为8.0-8.6等,而预报亮度为12.8等,已经大大超过预报亮度。SWAN 12月11日和14日的图片出现了C/2006 P1 (McNaught)的踪影,非常明亮,估计已经到了5-6等左右,而这时彗星离太阳还有接近1个天文单位的距离,预报亮度为11等左右,彗星继续偏离预报亮度,如果保持这个趋势,彗星有可能在2007年1月12-15日以0.17天文单位飞越SOHO C3视场时成为负星等,这个范围有可能在-3等到-9等之间,还有一个有趣的的会合值得一看,C/2006 P1 于1月14日15:55(UT)从水星东边40分飞过,很难一见的场面。 近年来罕有亮彗,希望不要让人失望 可惜于太阳同升落,目视很难有机会了。 omg肉眼没多少戏,期待大猫的照片。 比较期待。。。。。 苏的消息从那来的?吉田的亮度计算依然是逼近0等。Cometml上面也没这么夸张。
http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2006P1/mag.gif 关注 可以在夜间观测到吗? 1、"9 observations received so far suggest a preliminary light curve of m = 4.4 + 5 log d + 14.9 log r Observations in ICQ format"
" Such comets often brighten more slowly when they approach closer to the Sun. Taking this into account the likely peak brightness in January is between 2nd and 0th magnitude, although if it continues brightening at the present rate it could be a rather unlikely -9."
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~jds/
2、彗星增亮速度超过预计,从SWAN图上看,已经亮于预报5等以上,ICQ预报最大2等,那么完全有可能超过0等。 苏的消息从那来的?吉田的亮度计算依然是逼近0等。Cometml上面也没这么夸张。
http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2006P1/mag.gif
吉田网站已经很久没有更新了,最后更新是12月2日。
我是根据SWAN图和BAA资料作出预测。 C/2006 P1 ( McNaught )
It will pass only 0.17 A.U. from the sun in mid January, and reach to 1 mag. It had been visible visually in the evening low sky until mid November. But it is not observable now. However, Michael Jager and Gerald Rhemann succeeded to catch it using their CCD camera. The comet is 6.5-7.0 mag, brightening as expected. When the comet reaches to 1 mag, it is not observable on the earth, but it will be visible in the SOHO/LASCO images. In the Southern Hemisphere, it appears at 3.5-4 mag in late January, then it keeps observable while fading gradually. In the Northern Hemisphere, it will never be observable again.
Date(TT) R.A. (2000) Decl. Delta r Elong. m1 Best Time(A, h)
Dec. 16 17 53.05 -10 19.7 1.794 0.871 13 6.5 18:20 ( 82, -7)
Dec. 23 18 10.76 -9 15.0 1.611 0.701 14 5.8 18:23 ( 85, -9)
吉田最新资料
12月16日发布
Magnitudes Graph
m1 = 4.0 + 5 log d + 17.5 log r [ ,-49] ( - 2006 Nov. 24)
m1 = 5.5 + 5 log d + 5.0 log r [-49, 49] (2006 Nov. 24 - 2007 Mar. 2)
m1 = 4.0 + 5 log d + 17.5 log r [ 49, ] (2007 Mar. 2 - ) 無緣看見了
www.tam.gov.tw/comet_meteor/2006/comet/c20061124.htm
2007年1月下旬之後,因彗星位置非常接近天南極附近,北半球也不得見,
南半球的人則可見,但亮度已將降低到3.5~4等左右。 3.5~4等,那也好得很了,期待大猫们的照片…… 要是能看见就好了呀 我去的时候吉田的网站刚刚更新过(20日)。另外,C/2006 P1 (McNaught) 的绝对星等很暗,能在过近日点期间突破-2等的机会比较小,甚至有可能会瓦解(但愿别成真的了)。但如果彗星能达到-9等这么夸张,或许能成为白日彗星。现在在Cometml上面也有关于这样的讨论,但没有迹象显示彗星会亮到如此夸张。 白日彗星最暗多少等才能看到? 白日彗星最暗多少等才能看到?
那还不得来个-5,-6的,得照最亮的金星算 :shock: 可惜晚上看不见! :( 我去的时候吉田的网站刚刚更新过(20日)。另外,C/2006 P1 (McNaught) 的绝对星等很暗,能在过近日点期间突破-2等的机会比较小,甚至有可能会瓦解(但愿别成真的了)。但如果彗星能达到-9等这么夸张,或许能成为白日彗星。现在在Cometml上面也有关于这样的讨论,但没有迹象显示彗星会亮到如此夸张。
-9等的确夸张,这只不过是我在BAA上取的预报,当然也是这颗彗星有可能达到亮度的上限,前几天国外有在极端条件下取得的彗星地面观测数据,均表明彗星至少比ICQ预报亮2等以上,虽然观测条件极其恶劣,几乎是贴着地平线,而且在上千米的高山上非常困难地观测到,加上彗星出现在SWAN上,综合起来分析,彗星亮于预报的可能性非常大,彗星比预计的活跃,成为负星等的可能性不小,最大的可能是彗星最终能到-2等左右,当然,希望它不要先粉身碎骨了。17日的SWAN图放出来了,彗星继续增亮,成一大白斑状,不过没有察觉出明显的彗尾,也许是因为彗星接近太阳反向,彗尾与视线接近平行所致。 Rob McNaught利用前段时间的数据推测出彗星亮度的可能变化:
I've derived the following parameters from Giovanni's data
Mag = H' + 5 log(delta) + 2.5 n' log(r)
H' = 7.3 +/- 0.1
n' = 7.2 +/- 0.2 (3.01 < r < 0.85 pre-perihelion)
where H' and n' refer to the integrated mag within 12,500km of the nucleus
Obs mag Calc mag O-C
17.8 17.8 -0.0
17.3 17.2 0.1
16.5 16.9 -0.4
16.0 15.6 0.4
15.2 15.2 0.0
15.0 14.6 0.4
14.0 14.0 -0.0
12.0 12.3 -0.3
10.9 10.9 0.0
10.2 10.3 -0.1
9.8 10.2 -0.4
9.5 9.5 -0.0
9.3 9.1 0.2
7.5 7.3 0.2
The errors in the derived quantities are formal and do not account
for the (unknown) uncertainties in the input data. However, these
small errors suggest that there is no obvious divergence from a single
brightness formula, i.e. no change in slope (value of n), no outbursts.
If there is any query about the value of n, I accept that comets are
supposed to display a decreasing value as the Sun is approached. I just
don't see this is the data, so have to go with what is derived. Of course
the data could be wrong or biased or in some way misleading. More data
is needed at this critical stage!
I heard from Rob Matson and R. Hasuo (via Syuichi Nakano) that P1 shows
an obvious image on the SWAN images now.
Cheers, Rob
另外,IAUC 8786公布了P/2006 Y1 (Korlevic-Juric) ,应该是重复发现,不知苏能不能进去,现在Maik Meyer仍然没有发布消息。