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作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-1 17:35
标题: 月亮太陽欣赏和觀察---林月笙香港天文台
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2017-9-10 17:11 编辑

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自制家用天文台 --- MANDII(香港)
http://www.astronomy.com.cn/bbs/thread-123895-1-1.html



<< 月球表面地形观察照片图综合列表 >>

记录条:
环形山名称_地图环形山号码 观察1 |观察2 . .|观察N

1.观察=日期时间_(目视的月亮方位,高度,月亮大小约数)_照片顺序号
2.照片内容: 包含放大了的实物照片和相应的地形地图剪辑,合拼成一张照片图,方便对照之用。以及器材拍摄资料。

阿基米德 Archimedes_228:2010/08/19_22:10_(East,40,55%)_NO.5
BULLIALDUS: 2011/01/15 23:15_(West,60 70%)_No.11  
克劳默特 Cleomede _19 : 2010/05/17 19:40_(West,45,20%)_NO.1
哥白尼 Copernicus_223 : 2010/06/22 20:05_(East,70,65%)_NO.3
郎格尔努斯 Langrenus_78 : 2010/05/18 20:00_(West,45,23%)_NO.2
雨海 Mare Imbrium : 2010/10/22 20:00_(East,65 100%)_No.8
Mare Nectaris : 2011/01/10 21:45_(West,30 20%)_No.10
波西杜尼斯 Posidonius_15: 2010/08/27 22:45_(East,40,85%)_NO.6
第谷 Tycho_176 : 2010/06/22 20:05_(East,70,65%)_NO.4

比利牛斯山脉 : 2010/09/16_22:48_(SW ,30,55%)_NO.7
月上树梢: 2010/10/23_19:00_(East , 15 , 100%)_NO.9


Total 11 objects 11 observations




MANDII
Created on 2010 / 05 / 09
Updated on 2011 / 01 / 15
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-1 17:37
1) 克劳默特 Cleomede
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-1 17:37
2) 郎格尔努斯 Langrenus
作者: duke    时间: 2010-6-1 20:51
好,继续继续
作者: gs2c    时间: 2010-6-1 22:22
支持观测日记!!
作者: mm0443    时间: 2010-6-2 09:37
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作者: stephen006    时间: 2010-6-2 11:27
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作者: jvcl    时间: 2010-6-3 00:27
第一次看到分别图
作者: qyz21new    时间: 2010-6-3 07:57
翔实的观测,我有两份月面图,就是没这样详尽记录过。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-4 08:50
谢谢各位关注。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-22 22:44
NO.3-4)
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作者: 地球火星    时间: 2010-6-23 18:58
可惜照片能再清晰点就更好了!
作者: 麻宫雅典娜    时间: 2010-6-23 20:56
与楼上有同感,那样就很完美了
作者: skyczheng    时间: 2010-6-23 21:28
不知道是天气原因,还是对焦问题,月面不清晰!
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-24 11:05
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2010-6-24 11:10 编辑

目镜后DC拍,DC只有400万像数,我的4“牛反估计最高放大倍数也只有100倍到120倍那样,对焦也进力了,也只能那样了。在计划改用摄像头拍。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-24 12:21
目前好想拍高清的月坎。

购置了Kson 7.7mm 1.25" 目镜和3X barlow , 但试了成效不高。
原因不是目镜和barlow质量不好,总的来说应该是我错误判断了MIZAR望洋镜的放大倍数,白白浪费这笔不必要的投资。

1.本来我要求放大到200倍就刚好的,像克劳默特那副再放大一倍 。 600/7.7*3=233倍,我以为镜子最高应该有200倍,高一点点33倍应该没什么,但实际上就是很不清晰,试了不同的目镜在目视下的情况,其实以前也试了4mm的目镜(150倍)也是很不清,开头以为是0.965“的目镜关系,现在觉得应该不是了。
放大高一倍,目视光度会暗4倍。但问题不只是暗,而是毛湖。我估计MIZAR镜最多也只有100-120倍那样清晰度还可以接受。

2.试了用DSI来拍,以前单单DSI拍放大只有70倍那样,而且没有DC拍得清,因此一直不喜欢用DSI来拍月。
现在试了3X barlow,1.25"的能配用,的确是放大了很多,但那样210倍下也是很毛湖。其实我不应该买3倍barlow ,应该2倍比较好的。之前试了下载K3CCDTOOL试了一下, 不知为何无法识别DSI来,后来也没理了。

3. 目镜后拍,始终是不够清,多了那么多的镜片。我作晚试用web cam 来拍,刚好家里有个陈年web cam ,很久以前的,640*480 , 像数可能只有30/40万那样, 15 flames/second ,我作晚把它的头除下,手持目镜坐里试了一下,下载了一个通用软件,是可以拍下AVI来了(作晚天非常多云,月很不清),但后来在作图象处理时发现IRIS无法分解AVI档,本来要分解到3色后再叠加的,出了一些错误信息,还在试验中。。。本来还打算买部1000万以上的DC,但现在看来目镜后拍不是一个好做法,以后很有可能会放弃目镜后拍摄,因此DC也是没必要再买的了。现在只稀望 web cam 能拍出清晰的来,但估计也是要一段磨合时期了。
作者: 观天巨眼    时间: 2010-6-24 12:53
楼主头像里的那个圆顶是自己DIY的吗?
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-24 13:48
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2010-6-24 13:49 编辑
楼主头像里的那个圆顶是自己DIY的吗?
观天巨眼 发表于 2010-6-24 12:53


是的,有大半年了。
玩天文也那么久了。
作者: 长春目视派    时间: 2010-6-24 14:05
呵呵。看楼主镜子的图片,感觉楼主应该把月面图升级了。。精度不够。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-24 17:19
试了一个下午,终于解决了IRIS软件上的问题,IRIS无法处理是因为AVI档codec 的问题,再下载多一个软件便能把AVI修恢。
然后IRIS便可以正常工作。得出一个最终叠加200张后的jpec 档了!
不过还没认真做中间的处理,只是在试软件而已。
目前web cam 进度来说,就是说能把任何一个web cam ,获取其在望洋镜里的AVI 录像,然后做成一副合成叠加后的照片了。
就是那获取录像的软件,没办法与DSI共用,否则也可以用DSI来录像。

下一步就是要想办法把web cam 固定到1.25" / 0.965" 的目镜坐上可以了,那问题不难解决的。不过要试了最终的照片质素才做那个,因为未必一定就是用那部web cam 的。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-29 09:11
刚刚试玩了下Registax 5.1 ,把AVI叠加200张看看,用法要比IRIS简单容易得多。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-29 09:12
今日下载了好几套通用软件,现在web cam 拍月基本上有4个方案已定下来,目的是要拍高清和放大倍数高(MIZAR 4“ 最大定为120倍)的月面。

1. 用谱通web cam ,以通用的avi拍录软件,在registax/Iris 叠加成照片。一般web cam 估计相当于focal length 大约在8mm的目镜那样,因此放大数约在7,80倍。还是不够大(差4,50倍),因此要试在0.965"的2X barlow(160倍)下的情况。1.25"的3X Barlow 达到240倍估计成像不行的,因为在目镜里都已经那么差。

2.用DSI I 拍,以前拍完是没有叠加的,现在要叠加起码100张以上看看,但放大只有70倍那样是肯定的,因此要想办法在0.965"的2X barlow 下试验。

3.购买全新的Philip spc900nc , 连1.25" adpater 只要680 RMB 。
已与买方联络好,但估计没那么快决定要。此web cam 性能肯定要好很多,不过放大倍数方面估计也只能是70/80倍那样,因此也要 想办法再放大多一倍才够。像上面的用0.965" barlow 。

4.用高压拍录软件,得到高压缩后的AVI,再把AVI转换一些高清的档案格式,比如DVD,Mpec,APPLE TV 等等,然后用高清播放器软件直接在动画中扑捉 JPG照片,那样便有可能直接地可以得到高清的照片,而并不用任何叠加处理,当然也可以再叠加。目前这只是构思。
其实理想放大是200倍起码的,但那是MIZAR镜没法做到的了,只能看日后的ORION 6" 牛反了,但该镜是计划半年后才会用的。因此现在只能那样,但以上的更新动作,也要同时考虑到日后Orion镜的配套上来。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-6-29 09:14
今晚想了一个最简单又可靠的方法就是把web cam 固定到DC万能架上,那样便可以插得上1.25"和0.965"的目镜座或者Barlow 上了。
现在都完全准备好了,就等好天月亮出来。
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-7-20 22:16
今晚终于有空试了下web cam .
没加 barlow 放大,云厚。
果然比用DC目镜后好 !
作者: 司徒烟    时间: 2010-7-20 22:33
向实践派学习
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-8-19 22:59
NO.5)
It's long time no take an astro picture ,
cause recently not always stay at home .
Tonight , I come to take a picture of Archimedes .
I pick up the moon map , nevigate the moon surface for nearly 15 minutes . And center the eyepiece after I can locate the Archimedes . Then use web cam to shoot it . Finally make the picture by Registax software .
作者: 406959778    时间: 2010-8-20 11:52
山名你都认识,在那差的
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-8-20 12:01
有了月面地图,便有根有据。
图中点4还是当年1971年阿波罗15号登陆地点呢。
你大概在照片上也能看到那地方的位置了。

作者: 浪将    时间: 2010-8-26 00:08
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作者: mandii    时间: 2010-8-27 23:49
No.6)
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作者: mandii    时间: 2010-8-29 00:29
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2010-8-29 00:35 编辑

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作者: mandii    时间: 2010-9-17 11:18
NO.7)

Last night the moon was very bright , actually not a good time to take a image ,atmosphere was not stable as well .

This time I tried my new bought 1.25" 2X barlow together with the web cam . Previously I had failed to capture a good 3X barlow image , cause too big magnification for my 4" telescope and blur the image indeed . But this time with 2X barlow , the image is still acceptable . I am satisfield with this cheap price Barlow very much .

This time the target is the "比利牛斯" mountain chain , the BillyNews mountain chain . You can also see some nearby crators , and such magnification is just enough for me , compared with those taken previously without the barlow

Finally , this time I write my report on the next day of observation night . So that I can have plenty of time to prepare a better image . Before I didn't pay too much attention on the image processing indeed , cause I don't have much time to try on the night time . So,this morning I am free in office and try more on the software REGISTAX . I found it has good tools to make the image better and sharper . That's a good and neat software .
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-10-23 10:55
No.8 )

Dear Joe ,

I see . Thanks for your care

So the wind last night had passed and left .
I had found a chance to take a moon photo last night .
It's the Mare Imbrium , a large oceanic area on the moon .
You can check several apparent areas as well from the moon map I provided , I had bold it in Red blocks .

The FOV of this picture ( DSI plus 2X barlow ) this time is about 12" , according to the indication on the moon map software . Starting from now, I can use this software to physically measure the FOV of any telescope imaging system . And I can even measure the distance between two points on the moon directly . In the old time , I can only calculate ( i.e. estimate ) the FOV , but now I can measure it directly and PHYSICALLY with the help of the actual moon crators , this is very important to me .

I am not using a web cam this time indeed .
282 flames is collected in about 5 minutes from DSI .
Comparing to webcam , Just several second can be collected for such number of flames in a video format . The shorter the time , the less the requirement from the mount's tracking . So DSI surely can cause more shifting in image than the web cam . However , such image shifting can be recovered easily from any image-process software . And DSI is more sensitive than my ordinary web cam , ( even the price is more exspensive ) , thus , I may use DSI to take moon photo in future , and totally replace the use of a web cam . Because DSI is more generic in my situation .


Clear skies everybody .
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-10-23 19:44
NO.9)

The moon is rising up the hill , behind a tree .
This moment leaves silently and fastly .

The picture was shooted at 7:00p.m tonight , within less than 10 seconds time .
I focus on the tree , and let the moon become a blured background .
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-12-24 14:50
1. 2010/12/24圣诞平安夜,焊登CLOUDY NIGHTS
MOON CRATERS
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbt ... /sb/5/o/all/fpart/1


2. 2010/12/20 焊登美国论坛
Moon Craters
http://www.astronomyforum.net/mo ... html#post1057242540

3. 2010/12/07 焊登台湾论坛
月面欣赏和觀察
http://familystar.org.tw/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,45/topic,9826.0
作者: mandii    时间: 2010-12-31 12:37
2010年12月31日,焊登台湾"数位男女"
http://bbs.mychat.to/reads.php?tid=901956&page=1#ptpc
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-10 23:00
NO.10)
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作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-11 11:42
<<台湾>>

技安:2011-01-10 23:04:58

好天氣ㄝ
台北快發霉啦...........


MANDII : 今天 09:33:11
呵呵,不行的,作晚整个天就一个月亮。


<< US ASTRONOMY >>
Joe Lalumia : Yesterday, 07:56 PM from Rockwall, Texas

COOL! --- thanks for posting them. You may be able to get better use out of the DSI camera by following this planetary photo instructions:
AutoStarSuite.Net - Planet settings for DSI color cameras
are you using the free Registax software to stack your photos?
http://www.astronomie.be/registax/



carnevali : Today, 04:22 AM from morehead, KY
Good work, MANDII. Sounds like you have been busy and having fun making the images. Thanks for sharing your work.




MANDII : Today, 11:21 AM
Thanks Joe for your more detailed DSI information , yes , I am using the Registax 5.0 .
That seems to be a good software , and easy to use it .

And thanks Carnevali as well .

Recently , the night is not so clear , always misky night , I can't see the other stars , except the the moon , and Jupiter .

Hoping Clear skies to all of us .







<< CLOUDY NIGHTS >>
Scott Beith:01/10/11 07:21 PM from Frederick, MD
Nice observations and photos.


big george :01/10/11 08:29 PM
Enjoyed your observation report and nice pics.
Thankyou for posting.

George


MANDII : 01/10/11 10:24 PM
Thanks Scott Beith , and big george .

Recently , the night is not so clear , always misky night , I can't see the other stars , except the moon , and Jupiter .

Hoping Clear skies to all of us .
作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-11 11:57
好帖,收藏了.
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-11 12:14
好帖,收藏了.
changbaike 发表于 2011-1-11 11:57


谢谢
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-11 12:50
<< US ASTRONOMY >>

roverich Today, 12:19 PM from virginia .usa
Great shots Mandy ..Thanks for posting them ...



MANDII : Today, 12:32 PM
Ha ha ! how do you know my name is pronounced as 'Mandy' .
This name has been used for nearly twenty years .
Most people in my place don't know how to pronounce this word . Yes , you are right . Surely called Mandy , but in written , I add the two characters 'II' , that is actually a Roman character ,representing the pillars of old architecture . Roman/Italy has many building that are make up of and supported by pillars . I used to feel comfortably the ancient European Architecture very much .
作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-12 19:16
有了月面地图,便有根有据。
图中点4还是当年1971年阿波罗15号登陆地点呢。
你大概在照片上也能看到那地方 ...
mandii 发表于 2010-8-20 12:01



    今天对照google moon目视了一下月亮,想精确找到对应的月标,也不是那么容易,更加佩服楼主! 顺便问一下,你所用的月面地图在那里找到的?比google moon的要详细,赞. 期待楼主继续上图!
作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-13 09:09
找到了一个全图,不错

http://www.astronomy.com.cn/bbs/thread-38310-3-55.html
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-13 09:32
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2011-1-13 09:45 编辑
今天对照google moon目视了一下月亮,想精确找到对应的月标,也不是那么容易,更加佩服楼主! 顺便问一 ...
changbaike 发表于 2011-1-12 19:16



几个月前偶尔在网上下载的软件,叫'Virtual Moon Atlas ' 。
不记得在那个地方下了。
那软件里的目标还可以再深入放大很多很多,他日只要我提高装备性能,便能探得更深,路便能走得更远更广阔。
而且还可以透过软件里的月坎,实际地量度望远镜拍摄系统的整体放大后的视场大小,非常实用。
作者: 伴月星辰    时间: 2011-1-13 09:46
第一次看到分别图,学习了
作者: F00    时间: 2011-1-13 09:54
米扎都用上了
作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-13 14:12
几个月前偶尔在网上下载的软件,叫'Virtual Moon Atlas ' 。
不记得在那个地方下了。
那软件里的目标还 ...
mandii 发表于 2011-1-13 09:32



    谢谢,找到了5.0版的,正在安装:http://bbs.cnastro.cn/viewthread.php?tid=6029
作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-13 14:17
作为观测对照,上述软件要比google moon易用许多,当然多媒体信息逊于google。强!
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-13 16:18
没错,就是那套软件。
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-13 16:19
<< US ASTRONOMY >>

carnevali : Yesterday, 01:43 AM from morehead, KY
I for one will surely not object to embedding Roman architecture in your name!
(I was born in Rome.)



jimt : Yesterday, 01:46 AM from North Georgia
Nice Moon pictures. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Jim


MANDII : Yesterday, 11:56 AM
Ha ha , just personal feeling indeed , not so serious .
So ,I am gladed you come from Rome .
That's a wonderful place .
作者: 河之舟    时间: 2011-1-13 17:15
漂亮得很,看看
作者: 河之舟    时间: 2011-1-13 17:16
漂亮得很,看看
作者: 醉在星空中    时间: 2011-1-13 17:27
各方面原因估计有  摄像头拍的估计很好?
作者: 优雅人生    时间: 2011-1-13 17:43
辛苦了,拍得很好。
作者: sr19961108    时间: 2011-1-15 13:41
不错,很清晰,细节多
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-16 00:10
NO.11)
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作者: changbaike    时间: 2011-1-16 14:59
继续顶!
您的帖子长度不符合要求。 当前长度: 12 字节系统限制: 16 到 60000 字节
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-17 12:51
呵呵,thank you .........
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-17 16:00
< 美国论坛 / US ASTRONOMY >

BKBrown: Yesterday, 03:43 PM from Ashburn, VA USA
Nice work MANDII, I really enjoy lunar imaging too. Thank you for sharing.

Clear Skies, Brian



Cladinator : Yesterday, 03:54 PM from Kankakee, Il
If you're a moon lover check this thing out. You can help classify craters and even find newly formed craters.
http://www.moonzoo.org/
This is cool.



sxinias : Today, 05:44 AM from Sxinias Marathon Greece
Hi MandII
Nice work. thanks for sharing.



MANDII : Today, 12:58 PM
Thanks all .
I will keep on my work .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-17 16:50
各方面原因估计有  摄像头拍的估计很好?
醉在星空中 发表于 2011-1-13 17:27


没注意看到你的提问,刚刚有空再看一下贴上每个人写的东西。
我的不是摄像头,用摄像头也可以。
你看我之前也有的照片是用改装了的摄像头来拍。
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-1-18 09:26
< 美国/US ASTRONOMY >


Martin Nicholson : Yesterday, 06:42 PM from Cleobury Mortimer

I am signed up with moonzoo but felt rather underwhelmed by what was on offer. Perhaps I need to give it another chance, especially if the weather is turning wet in Shropshire.




stormwarn: Yesterday, 11:48 PM from NJ
Very nice work. Enjoyed seeing this.
作者: foxxiang    时间: 2011-1-18 12:42
很强大,很给力,学习中
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-13 23:06
NO.12)

RIMA HADLEY : 2011/03/13 22:00_(West,60 50%)_No.12
DSI-I(0.08s X 200)
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-14 22:06
NO.13)

RIMA HADLEY : 2011/03/13 22:00_(West,60 50%)_No.12 |2011/03/14 21:00_(West,80 60%)_No.13


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carnevali : Yesterday, 03:36 PM from morehead, KY

That's the landing site of Apollo 15 .... nice work on the close-up!
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-16 11:26
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2011-3-16 12:55 编辑

拍月面也拍了快一年了,图片清不清好不好,这个器材是那样也只能那样了,能改善的也不多。一分钱一分货,一分天气便一分钱,不能免强,现在该是时候搞搞新意思了。

我想加强月面地图的作用,因为我觉得月图不只能做到目前那些。
目前是观察当晚,打印月图出来,边看月图边找目标,然后把目标移到12分左右的视场的中间位置,进行拍摄纪录。但问题是这种作法,是漫无目的地随意找目标的。

现在要加插一种玩法,要更加体现利用月图来有目的性的寻找目标的玩法,就是要予定目标拍摄。予定指的是要在观察当晚之前的时间里,予定好要拍的位置,予定好一个目标,不能随意拍个目标便算数。得先把月图造好,然后于当晚打印月图出来进行细致的观察和拍摄,而必需要找到拍到该目标的位置所在。这样新做法和目前比较上来完全是倆回事的,难度也提高好多。

我的第一个目标是 Rupes Recta .
该图区的视场是11' , 和我现在用web cam 或者DSI要差不多,DSI加 2x barlow 能达到12‘, web cam 就不用加barlow 都有12'了。我不知道我现在的器材能不能解像到那条Rupes Recta的裂纹,试试看。


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English version :
My next target is Rupa Recta .
There is a crack line on the moon map .
The moon map of Rupa Recta is prepared well right now , FOV around 12' , as shown .

So next time I need to find it out this target , and move it to centerof the FOV , and take image of it . It's totally different to what I did currently , currently I choose any object to shoot it , no target actually . So it will be much more challenging because I need to shoot the ONE and ONLY ONE target on my next time observation .

Let's see it , For the moment I am not sure my equipment can resolve the crack line of Rupa Recta .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-18 09:15
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carnevali : Yesterday, 01:01 PM from morehead, KY

Yeah, Rupes Recta is tough. It certainly requires a night of good seeing (low atmospheric turbulence), a terminator not too far from it, decent optics, and some magnification. It is pretty though, a worthy subject for an image. And if you get that later you can push your ability farther and try to catch the nearby Birt Rille (or Brit Rille?); now, that's a really tough one to get. I think you can see it in the map-photo to the right and below the crater to the right of Rupes Recta.



MANDII : Today, 01:59 AM

I see . . . Carnevali .
You mean the 2nd crack line , halfly shorter one on the right hand side of Rupes Recta.
Next time ! I will definitely try my all effort to find out this Rupes Recta , at first most difficlut is to find it out under eyepiece . And then next step is to shoot it down onto paper(ha ha !) . If next time failed ( most probably ,Ha ha ! ) , I will try one more next time .

About the camera :
My DSI-I plus 2X barlow can reach around 12' FOV , under my 6"/F5 Newtonian scope .
If I am using a web cam , it's already 12' FOV without using of 2x Barlow .
Thus , my current plan , is to try web cam first !
because I can have over 1000 flames within 30 seconds time if I am using an ordinary web cam .
But It takes me over 5 minutes time to get these 1000 flames if I am using the DSI-I .
The more faster to get all these images , the less loading on my mount tracking and thus affact image quality .


Let's see it
作者: halva    时间: 2011-3-18 10:24
好多科学家在月亮上面=。=
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-21 17:40
台湾

aa : 2011-03-21 16:02
這個是不是之前同好之間常拍的峡谷?
我忘了叫什麼名字了


MANDII : 2011-03-21 17:36
我只是偶尔在月图上发现这个位置有一条裂痕而且,它叫”Rupes Recta" , 我觉得很特别,不清楚有没有人拍过它。
你可以对比那个人的照片和这张月图,看上面裂痕处周围月坑的位置和大小是不是和月图对得上就知道是不是那个了。月图是不会有错。
作者: 伴月星辰    时间: 2011-3-21 17:44
学习了,楼主很用心
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-3-22 11:14
学习了,楼主很用心
伴月星辰 发表于 2011-3-21 17:44


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作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-12 10:34
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2011-4-12 10:36 编辑

NO.14 )

RUPES RECTA : 2011/04/11 21:00_(West ,60,30%)_NO.14

上张贴里(第67楼)计划好的要看Rupes Recta 。
作晚的Rupes Recta是在月相的阴影地区,它的位置是在图中白线标记那里 。
100倍放大的目镜里,月面非常的清晰,就是太暗没法找到Rupes Recta , 改日再来找找看。  


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作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-12 17:18
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David Knisely : 04/12/11 03:08 AM from Beatrice, Nebraska

I'm afraid I don't quite see Hadley Rille in the images you posted (the resolution is far too low). What is being shown primarily are the Apennine Mountains and Mare Imbrium rather than the rille. Clear skies to you.


MANDII : 04/12/11 04:54 AM
I see ... Sir.
I thought the name "Hadley" on the map refers to the whole mountain chain indeed . If it's a Rille , that would need much more resolution ,Thank you .


Scopyfrank : 04/12/11 05:05 AM from Luxembourg
Impressive work, thanks for sharing.


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laney50w : Today, 04:42 AM from NEW YORK
Very nice, Mandii!
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-13 23:36
NO.15 )

RUPES RECTA : 2011/04/11 21:00_(West ,60,30%)_NO.14 |2011/04/13 22:00_(West ,50,70%)_NO.15

今晚再来一次 RUPES RECTA , 就在图正中间有个很明显的坑,再靠右边约2厘米有3个小坑那里,水平穿过第一和第二个小坑.
有是有看到一条纹,不知道是不是.    Smiley


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作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-15 10:28
台湾

aa: 2011-04-14 19:40
不錯也
有看到那一條直線..

MANDII : 2011-04-15 10:22
Thank you aa



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David Knisely : 04/12/11 04:00 PM from Beatrice, Nebraska
Hi there. Well, there are a couple of features with the Hadley name. First, there is Mount Hadley ("Mons Hadley", if you go with the Latin name). It is one of several tall mountains in the Apennine mountain (Montes Apennine) range. Not far from it in a small low flat spot is tiny Hadley rille itself (Rima Hadley), close to where the Apollo 15 lunar mission landed and then drove to in the Lunar Rover. The rille can be seen and imaged from the ground, although it takes pretty high power, a low sun angle, and good seeing to get a look at it. Clear skies to you.


MANDII : 04/13/11 11:56 AM
Thank you Sir , very informative .

So tonight once agian the Rupes Recta , there is a sharp crater in the center of the picture , about 2 cm rightward we can see 3 vertically located small craters , and there is a line passing through in between the first and 2nd small crater , so I guess that should be the one Rupes Recta is located .
You can compare the moon map I previously posted .

Clear skies everybody .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-15 10:46
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台湾炫大:春天的月亮

2011-04-14 00:44:59
每天晴天鐘都是大晴?
可每天都是連天狼星都看不清楚的鳥天氣.......
春天的天氣真是夠沒力了...

沒星星玩~月亮加減看一看吧~
連天狼星都看不清楚~您就不要太用力看這張了

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MANDII : 2011-04-14 14:12:23
我也是作晚有拍月,也发这里来。
炫大那张能看得到有一条很明显的纹,就是Rupes recta。
我的还不够清楚,一点点。


阿炫 : 2011-04-14 14:21:06
直線壁局部裁切

國外參考資料
http://www.imsc.edu.hk/pages/moon/rupesrecta.html

很清楚的近照

                               
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MANDII : 2011-04-14 14:37:32
是呀!!就是那条纹,那局部裁切的很清楚呀!!!

炫大拍的直線壁局部裁切:
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-16 11:41
今日台湾网上看到有人拍这个位置,中文不知叫什么,英文是Villas Apes .
这图视场是12" ,和我的web cam 差不多了,下个目标也拍拍看。 Smiley
作者: 梅西也天体    时间: 2011-4-16 12:09
回复 47# changbaike

那些压缩包都要下载下来吗?
作者: kupai    时间: 2011-4-16 13:07
楼主太牛了!
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-18 09:25
回复  changbaike

那些压缩包都要下载下来吗?
梅西也天体 发表于 2011-4-16 12:09



应该是的他那个。
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-19 09:26
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David : 星期一 18 四月, 2011 13:41

引用MANDII 寫到:
" 國外參考資料
http://www.imsc.edu.hk/pages/moon/rupesrecta.html "


This was a very poor pic taken a few years ago by me.

The moon is a wonderful target. In the last week or so I took out my 18" for many times, not for saturn because it is almost the same everyday, but for the moon. Last thursday, just me and an ex-student were observing and we spent more than 2 hours just on the moon. (Of course, the moon looked stunning in 18" at around 540x with Ethos 3.7.)

It is a shame that many people don't apprecipate the moon but it is easy to see why. There are so many targets that can look very similar, and one easily get lost. A good place to start is Charles Wood's list of Lunar 100:
http://www.astrospider.com/Lunar100list.htm

For those who have apple products, 'Moon Globe' is a wonderful app to download which is useful when using on the field. I frequently use it to demonstrate to my students what they are looking at and what they can pay particular attention to. Using this on iPad would be wonderful.



MANDII : 星期一 18 四月, 2011 17:53  
什么 ! 那张是你拍的呀??!!
好利害呀!!好清晰的rupes recta .
And thanks for your information on how to enjoy the moon , as well .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-19 11:30
《月面观察新方向定位》

月面观察有了新的开路方向,这观察包含目视和拍摄。
可谓找到了一条长久,实实在在附合现状环境的一条宽阔的天文观察道路。
过去只有月面图,而要观察的目标是很盲目的,就是在月图上看看那里自己觉得好看,比较特别的景点,然后就按月图来进行观察。今日得到香港天文论坛里的一位资深天文观察前辈 Mr.David 的重要信息,现在可收集了更进一步的一些比较有名的月球景点资料库。这景点库就是Charles Wood's list of Lunar 100 http://www.astrospider.com/Lunar100list.htm

这景点库里有100个,我想日后就按这100个景点进行观察,配合现有的月面地图,预先在月面地图中找到所要观察的景点,定好月面地图的视场(一般是12分角,随器材改动),目标位置(正常是正中心),和影像旋转角度(按牛反镜的特定方向)后,再打印月图进行观察,进行目视和拍摄,而观察的记录照片必需和原来月图的视场,位置以及影像旋转角度一致 。

我先按现在的月面观察情况来估算,一个月有一倆晚观察,一倆张的作品照片,那么最小50个月就能拍完这100个景点。也就说,光这景点库都已经能维持最小4年的天文观察乐趣了,而且是按目前的器材来算。过去是担心没天气观察,没什么好观察的天文素材,使天文的路很难走得下去,而自己又付出了那么多的心血,实在是有一点儿叹息。可现在很大程度上克服了这个问题 ! 克服了一个最基本最基础的问题 !。


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2011/04/19
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-4-19 12:36
Cloudy Nights and US Astronomy :
<<A New highway to go on moon observation>>



This is my new plan on the comming at least 4 years time to engoy the moon in a practical ,sophistical way . In my past two years of astro activity , the local weather is not really good enough for advance types of astro-observation . Advance observation seems to be a bit too ideal in sense in my situation .Looking at the real fact in front of me , I decided to go on a way that is more sophistic , and more long lasting observation activity . That is : To collect the moon scenic spots into pictures in my comming years . That would be most probably one of my way to fully use my telescope , and the most basic way to enjoy the astronomy , under bad weathers ,and under probably even more bad weathers in the comming years of time .

There is 100 good scenic spots on the ground of moon in database of Charles Wood's list of Lunar 100 Lunar 100 . This is a good database I had found a long time for .With the help of Charles database , plus my current moon map software , I can prepare the target location map before the observation night . Fix down the map FOV( normally 12" under my telescope & camera ) , the target position and image rotation before observation .And take a picture of the certain sopts by the same FOV , position and image rotation during the observation nights .

According my current moon observation situation , one months I got 1 or 2 moon pictures , so I can enjoy the astronomy by the Charles database for at least 50 months or 4 years of time .


Plan come true Today !



MANDII
2011/04/19
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-11 22:57
NO.16 )

Vallis Alpes : 2011/05/11 21:30_(West ,60,60%)_NO.16
4月16日预定的位置,Vallis Alpes 月蹊。


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作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-12 11:31
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azure1961p : 05/11/11 08:48 PM from USA
Probably the most unique image presentation on CN[repeatedly]. Nice Plato shot and mountains.

Pete

MANDII : 05/11/11 10:27 PM
Thank you Pete
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-16 10:24
Plan_03 )

The previous two completed planning objects were Straight wall/Rupes Recta and Villas Alpes .This is my third observation plan on moon .I give an index no. "Plan_03" to it , such that it can be linked together with it's actual observation report latter . From now on , I will plan the objects according to the charles wood lunar 100 , as I had said last month .


Object : CLAVIUS
Type : Walled plain
Plan date : 2011/05/16 10:01a.m
Charles Wood picture referenece : http://www.astrospider.com/Lunar_100/L09_Clavius.htm

Description :
The type of CLAVIUS is a walled plain , according information . It's near to Tycho and on the upper side of it . And there is numerous craterlets on a such large flat floor , forming an arc chain . For me , this area is clean and clear , good place to have a visit there , let me try it !
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-18 10:32
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jhfenimore : 05/12/11 06:32 PM
Am spending more of my observing time on the moon. Have a 4inch APO and a 10 inch Dob with a good mirror. Would prefer to use only one of them as I study the moon so my view is consistent. Average seeing here limits magnification to about 175X. Seeking advice from experienced lunar observers on which one to use as my primary lunar scope. Thanks!
Jack



MANDII : 05/16/11 09:52 PM
I prefer 4" APO , sharp image of APO scope .
The big aperture is not really an important issue on a bright object such as moon. Instead , lens quality is the point . 2ndly, to me , to observe moon is to observe the each big and small craters , and some detail lanscape on the floor of the moon, you need to find it out among the different complex areas . The FUN is the time you navigate the ground on the moon and find a target area that you want to find it out . So you need to have a moon map as well . In finding the specific objects on the moon with the moon map , the difficulty is the image rotation angle is different to the map . For refractor , the image is fixed the angle of rotation( upside down , and east west flip ),ALL the time it's fixed regardless where your scope is pointed to . So that would becomes very easy and straight forward to find an target when you look at the map simutanousely . But with newtonion type scope such as the an DOB , it's very difficlut to check with a map together . The image is always rotated irregularly . Not only upside down and E/W Flipping , but also rotate to some angle which is depending the pointing direction of your scope . So Newtonion is the most difficlut and need the most skills to use with it .


Sarkikos : 05/16/11 10:21 PM from Maryland, USA
I enjoy observing the Moon with all sizes and sorts of scopes - Newts, refractors, MCTs - so that's not an issue for me. The orientation of the image is not much of an issue any more for me either, because I've found good lunar atlases for all the different types of scopes.

During the work week a small scope is more convenient. I like taking out my 90mm Mak for a quick Moon view, the 5" Newt if I have a little more time, the 8" Newt if I feel more energetic. I use the 10" on the weekends - if I want to allow the possibility for seeing more detail on the Moon or planets.

The brightness of the image is also not an issue. A bright object will not allow a smaller aperture to show finer detail than its aperture will allow. Only larger aperture will make finer detail possible.

There are several ways to compensate for the bright image of the Moon, if that is seen as a problem: use filters, install an apodizing mask, increase magnification a bit, keep your eyes at a higher photopic level by looking at the reflection from a bright-white-light flashlight, or all of these methods together.

Mike



MANDII : 05/16/11 10:55 PM
ohh Mike ... may be I am not familar in using the forum , I may have mistake in replying this post . Origianlly I was not reply to your post on 05/16/11 08:46 PM . I reply to Jack the poster .
May I know which moon altlas you are using , that can show the excatly same image orientation of a newtonian scope , when the scope is pointing at different direction ?

To me , how to find a specific object with a map easily , is the basis to enjoy the moon . If the image orientation is different , you are difficlut to find an object . If you can't find out a target , you cannot observe it more detailly .


Sarkikos : 05/17/11 08:41 AM from Maryland, USA
MANDII,
To be more clear exactly who you are replying to, you can type in their name at the top of your post, as I did above, or you can click "Reply" directly on their post so that their name will be referenced.

But these threads are pretty informal. I don't think people here really mind if anyone who has an idea or opinion relating to a certain post responds to that post. It never bothers me.

Mike


Sarkikos : 05/17/11 08:56 AM from Maryland, USA
MANDII,

Here are several lunar atlases which have the inverted (Newtonian) orientation:

- Hatfield Photographic Lunar Atlas, Jeremy Cook
- Kleiner Mondatlas, Antonin Rukl (inverted and reversed views)
- Photographic Atlas of the Moon, Siew Meng Chong et al.
- Moon Atlas, John Moore (natural, inverted and reversed atlases)


I agree. When I'm using a Newtonian scope, I don't want to have to hold the atlas upside down or read the labels upside down. I want the observation session to be as easy and straightforward as possible. Anything that complicates things and gets in the way of my observing needs to be corrected and simplified. It just makes good sense.

Mike



MANDII : 05/17/11 10:52 AM
Thanks Mike for your atlas , yes things should get simple to use .

Sarkikos : 05/17/11 11:50 AM from Maryland, USA
MANDII,

I remember this acronym from my days in programming: KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid! Take no offense, this is a reminder to myself.


Mike
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-23 12:34
本帖最后由 mandii 于 2011-5-23 12:37 编辑

Plan_04 )

Object : VALLIS SCHROTER
Type : RILLE
Plan date : 2011/05/23 12:33a.m
Charles Wood picture referenece :
[url=http://www.astrospider.com/images/moon/L17_040501.jpg ]

Description :
This is a remarkable Rille .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-5-25 10:28
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sxinias : 05-23-2011, 01:26 PM from Marathon Greece

Hi Mandii,

Just stopped in to say hello. I see you are now exploring the moon. Are you still observing from your roof top observatory you built?

Joe



MANDII : 05-23-2011, 10:27 PM
Yes ,it is the observatory , Joe .
or Where else I can do it ? ha ha .
I had planned two pending objects ( plan_03 & plan_04)on the moon to observe next time , probably next month .
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deaman49 : Yesterday, 01:06 PM from Allegany, New York

You're doing a remarkable job, and really getting some good use out of that fine Observatory. You should be proud.

Lee


MANDII : Today, 10:58 AM
Thanks Lee From New York city .


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kraterkid : 05/30/11 02:36 PM from Jacumba, California
Mandii great presentation, I like the way you integrated the JAXA and VLA to showcase your lunar images.



MANDII: 05/30/11 11:04 PM
Thank you Kraterkid , from California .
作者: kongfu    时间: 2011-6-1 09:19
增长知识!可惜我基础差。
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-6-10 12:37
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TexasRed : 06/08/11 08:15 AM from Texas

Can anyone recommend a good map of the moon oriented like the view in my dob? Or a good book for getting started in exploring the moon?



MANDII : 06/09/11 09:55 PM
Well , this is a good topic to talk about .
In my idea , in order a moon map can be used by all kinds of telescope , and all it's pointing direction , it should have 3 kinds of views . Flip E-W , N-S inverted and most importantly it can be rotated to any angle . If anybody know this kind of software( I mean it can be rotated ) , pls teach me and thankful . We need to use software of moon map , not a copy of paper , because we can do many things in computer , like searching the crators by it's name , zooming view , taking picture of crators , or etc ... So a software of moon map is better and much more convienient than just a paper of map .

Why it depands on pointing direction ? In my actual usage of a newtonian scope for a long time , I found that the pointing direction of a DOB , newtonian scope ,except the refractor type scope , can cause the image in an eyepiece , to rotate to some angle . You can easily discover this image feature when you test even a fixed territoral building with a newtonian scope .

The image in eyepeice rotates clockwisely or anti-clockwisely , when your newtonian scope is pointed at different direction or angle . Of course in this test you have to locate the telescope in different position on the ground , such that the same buiding in different pointing direction , can be seen .


simpleisbetter : 06/09/11 10:10 PM from Republic, MO
As for software always being better and more convenient than a paper atlas, I'm not certain I completely agree. But if that flexiblity in software is what you're looking for, then download and install Virtual Moon Atlas. I run it, but I still prefer Rukl, the Lunar Field Atlas, or NASA maps.

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Steve


MANDII : 06/09/11 10:28 PM
Steve , I am using it , the virtual moon atlas , but it cannot be rotated . If you like paper , you can print it out from the that software at the time of observation .


Using computer has defintely another advantage , I am doing this kind of thing recently indeed . The advantage is : The observation can be planned in computer ! Before you are going to observe an object on the ground of a moon ( e.g crators ), you can do some kind of preparation . The preparation help you find an object more easily . You just save the picture that shows the nearby region of your target object . Or print it out in an paper . Or just save it as an picture to view in a computer display . And use it during the observing night . It save you much of the time at the observing night .


This is my thread for all your reference :
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbt ... /sb/5/o/all/fpart/1


simpleisbetter : 06/09/11 11:40 PM
Hi Mandii,

Maybe I'm not following you in what you mean by it can't be rotated. If you switch to the Tools tab to the right of the screen (see atch pix), in the middle of that tab section you will see a block for rotation. You can select both default orientation and direction of rotation. It's always worked for me. Now, I will say I've noticed that when you switch to eyepiece view, it seems to want to reset to default orientation, but once eyepiece view is turned on you can simply rotate it until it matches your FOV in the eyepiece. I hope that helps.

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Steve


Robert70 : 06/09/11 11:46 PM from Lunar Map Pro. Always there..anyway you like it.


DarkSkys :06/09/11 11:53 PM from In the dark desert of Eastern ...
I kow this is kinda Off topic, but are there any free Printable moon atlases? I thought I had on old Nat geo magizine one, but I cant find it.



simpleisbetter : 06/09/11 11:58 PM from Republic, MO
Sure, they would be the Lunar Field Atlas & Photographic Moon Book I mentioned in a couple different posts earlier in the thread. Here are the links again.

Lunar Field Atlas.
Alan Chu's Photographic Moon Book



MANDII : 06/10/11 12:09 AM
WOW steve !! It works !
I had tested it just now .
Ha ha , I was not really able to use this software ,though I had used it nearly half years of time . Really tricky you are . And thanks much of that important and very USEFUL skill for me
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-6-10 14:46
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大瘋起嘻:今天 12:46:42

以目標為準的觀測搜尋確實很有趣
這兩天也來玩看看



MANDII : 今天 14:36:57
呵呵,谢谢。
小玩意而已。 Grin
作者: 伴月星辰    时间: 2011-6-10 15:15
好贴,学习了
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-6-10 17:22
好贴,学习了
伴月星辰 发表于 2011-6-10 15:15



感谢感谢,呵呵。
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-6-17 15:00
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aa : 2011-06-17 09:34
這個 Vallis Alpes 拍的好清楚..表情


MANDII : 2011-06-17 14:59
呵, thank you .
作者: mandii    时间: 2011-6-20 11:40
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aa : 2011-06-17 15:39
對了,你是用 DSI I 拍的嗎?


MANDII : 2011-06-18 09:59
不是,那张用这个摄像头。
有的照片也有用DSI拍,会在贴里写清楚DSI的拍摄参数 。
如果贴里是标明web cam的,那就是这部摄像头。
aa 兄于论坛里的天文作品之多,张张都有水平,有目共睹,我看过不少的。
还请往后多加指导指导,呵呵。




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Starman27 : 06/19/11 11:27 AM from Illinois, Iowa
Nice shot!


MANDII : 06/19/11 11:28 PM
Thank you Sir , Herman .


The Command Module Effect... by azure1961p from USA

MANDII : 06/17/11 11:54 PM
Well , both of you are well said .
what I am feeling is that moon has much much thing to see , than any others . There is so many landsacpes on the moon , each time you can look at them , by the use of telescopes . So we should find , and discover more things to observe on the moon ground , as much as we can . That's good .

Looking moon is better than planets , because we probably cannot see much details on a planet( Jupitor / Saturn ) , so everytime it's basicly same details to look at these planets . And you have to use very advanced telescope to reveal the details in a planets , this make the cost increase. And there is not so many planets to look at as well . So basicly each time is same as I said previously .

Comparing Deep sky objects , there is much much these objects , visual observation mainly on clusters and galaxies , imaging is engaged in nebulas . And the cost of telescope is comparatively not so high , so it's worth to look at Deep sky . However , main problem is that there is not so many good days we can have chance to observe deep sky , it is very sensitive to local weathers .


Thus , MOON OBSERVATION , is the cheapest , oftenly enjoyable target for us , than any of others ,probably as of now , and as of comming years of time which are said that the weather condition is getting bad and more bad than now . The sky is getting polluted always .


Best Regrads ,
MANDII




Sarkikos : 06/18/11 11:41 AM from Suburban Maryland, USA

MANDII,
Yes, you don't need a big powerful telescope to see plenty of detail on the Moon. My 90mm f/13.3 Mak has become my most-used Moon scope. It is very light, easily portable, can be moved on the tripod with one hand. I can set it up on the front porch, or walk it around to the side of my house or a relatively glare-free area by a nearby pond. Sure, my 10" Newt will resolve a dozen or so craterlets in Plato and the rille in Alpine Valley, but the little Mak is true grab-and-go and will show enough detail to keep me busy for hours.

And in many areas, including my neighborhood, the light pollution has gotten so bad that it is really a waste of time to look at much else besides the Moon, planets and double stars. I save the faint stuff for my trips to a dark site. But at the dark site, I avoid looking at the Moon, planets and double stars. It just makes good sense.

Mike




MANDII : 06/19/11 11:33 AM
Mike , when I was very young , I like going out many places ,Travelling etc ... instead of staying at home . At that time , I did not know there is the moon around me . When I am middle young as of now , I am getting tired going out . Most of the time I am at home or at office , of course not all the time I mean mostly saying . So, I can do fixed point observation only . And I am gradaually knowing how to use my telescope , to open one more window in looking at the night sky . I gradually learn how to navigate the ground on the moon . Funny indeed . Better than watching TV at home .




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