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白羊星座 发表于 2008-10-20 01:54 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式 来自: 中国–甘肃–兰州 电信

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TV Powermates 的品质就不用我多说了吧,呵呵,知道这个系列的同好应该清楚其优异的品质了。我前段时间收了个TV 1.25英寸 5X Powermate 使用后就开始着迷TV的系列Powermates  了。这东西好的实在是没法说,确实的是极品,所以决定烧一整套 TV Powermates,其中包括 1.25英寸的 TV 2.5X Powermate 和 TV 5X Powermate(这个已经有了),2英寸的 TV 2X Powermate 和 TV 4X Powermate(这个过几天可能就有了)

所以现在还缺少   1.25英寸的 TV 2.5X Powermate 和 2英寸的 TV 2X Powermate ,这两个TV的Powermates我想做一个团购,只要人数上去在10人左右我就可以拿到远低于官方售价的价格了,这样我们大家都可以得到最大的实惠,白羊向大家承诺,团购价格我能拿到最低多少就按照多少作为团购价格,绝对不会高卖一分钱!!

另外由于我也还没有得到确切的最低价格,所以现在这两个Powermates的团购价格也定不下来,但是可以肯定的是绝对在千元以上,所以请有经济实力的同好加入我们的团购活动!!

以下是TV Powermates 的官方信息:

转自 Tele Vue 官方网站 :http://www.televue.com/engine/page.asp?ID=42

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Concept: While Barlows are powerful tools, the negative element defining them also limits their ability. The simple negative element Barlow increases eyepiece eye-relief. With short focal length eyepieces the effect is negligible. However, on long focal length eyepieces the exit pupil position moves well beyond the designer's intended position, resulting in vignetting with many eyepieces. This is why "Shorty" Barlows in particular, with their strong negative element often vignette and degrade long focus eyepieces. My 4-element form picks up where the Barlow concept can go no further. Powermate™ is a technically universal solution, using a positive field lens to redirect field rays. The result is an exit pupil that stays where the eyepiece designer intended. With freedom from aberrations, greater magnification potential, and compact size, I hope you'll agree Powermate™ raises the standard for image amplification. - Al Nagler

Al Nagler’s new 4-element concept, continues the tradition of full-field sharpness with optimum aberration control. Like long eye-relief? Retain the eye-relief of long focal length eyepieces, while at high power. Enjoy, for example, the sharpness and comfort of the 32mm Plössl at up to 5 times the power! Powermate™ vs. BarlowTo understand the Powermate, we must first understand the Barlow lens. Barlows amplify the power of a telescope. They can be considered “focal reducers” for eyepieces, or “focal extenders” for objectives. Terence Dickenson, in his Barlow test report in Sky and Telescope, July 1997, says: “Technology has erased the old objections. A modern Barlow will not degrade your telescope’s optics. Anyone telling you otherwise is using outdated information. Moreover, the highly regarded Nagler eyepieces and their clones have built-in Barlows, ample evidence that the lens is not some detrimental intruder.” Thanks, Terence, for laying the myth of the degrading Barlow to rest. A high quality Barlow must be properly designed and manufactured in order to avoid compromising a telescope’s color and spherical aberration corrections. The “invisibility” of Tele Vue’s 2-element Barlows has been noted in test reports in the astronomy magazines. However, by the nature of its negative power lens, a Barlow will do more than just increase magnification, regardless of the number of elements.
  

                               
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The diverging rays leaving the Barlow result in moving the exit pupil further out, thereby extending the eye relief. In short to medium focal length eyepieces the change is not noticeable. However, in the case of long focal length eyepieces, the increase can be significant and not without performance consequences.
Vignetting can occur due to the altered ray path, when the eyepiece’s lenses are not large enough in diameter to allow all the rays to make it through. Shorter Barlows, or ones with too much magnification, only exacerbate the problem because the ray path entering the eyepiece is steeper. We had to go beyond the Barlow concept to achieve the goal of a compact, high power, fully corrected image amplifier. The Powermate™ consists of a negative doublet plus a positive “pupil-correcting” doublet. This 4-element system provides the magnifying function of a Barlow without its limitations by restoring the field rays back to their original direction, as if the Powermate™ were not there. The result is a pure magnification increase.
  Unique Benefits and Applications for Powermates
  • Vignetting, edge field aberrations and pupil movement - all introduced when using Barlows with long focal length eyepieces, are minimized.
  • Telecentric operation (field rays leave parallel to optical axis, unlike Barlow lenses which diverge rays). This is ideal for Hydrogen-alpha filter use such as with Daystar models.
  • High performance for image amplification, CCD or film (some of the finest Earth-based planetary imaging is being done with Powermates™ -- see below).
  • Flexible for visual and imaging with all types of telescopes and eyepieces. Essentially Parfocal, and with nearly constant magnification regardless of image distance behind top surface (except 5x model which increases 1x for every 35mm of image distance increase).
  • Higher magnifications are possible with high optical performance compared to “doubling up” Barlows.
  • All will reach parfocal point in star diagonals, except for the 2”, 2x which comes very close.
In addition to full multi-coating, Powermates™ include other Tele Vue special touches such as safety undercuts where practical on the chrome barrel and captive lock screws that can’t fall out, and filter threads. Our 100% QC program at f/4 insures that Powermates™ will add dramatic power (and NOTHING ELSE) to your favorite eyepieces. If, for example, you own a 24mm Panoptic, you’ll have the power of a 12mm focal length eyepiece with the 2.0x Powermate, 9.6mm with the 2.5x Powermate, a 6mm with the 4x Powermate, or a 4.8mm with the 5x Powermate!  Imaging the Solar System with Powermates™Some of the finest Solar System images have been made with Powermates. Used singly or stacked, Powermates™ help any scope achieve the long focal-length required to image details on Solar System bodies. The increased image scale allows for imaging without an intervening eyepiece -- like in prime focus photography.  
Powermate™ Magnification Chart for Imagers

                               
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For astro-imagers, the above chart indicates the magnification for each Powermate™ (2x, 2.5x, 4x & 5x) as a function of distance from the Powermate™ top surface to the imaging surface (CCD or film).
1¼" Powermates: 2.5x & 5xThese models stand less than 3" out of your focuser and the 5x takes 1¼" threaded filters. They are parfocal in ALL 1¼" diagonals and prisms. For this reason, they are highly recommended over standard Barlows for 1¼" diagonals and refractors such as the Tele Vue-60. The 5x Powermate™ is ideal for long focus CCD and film photography, magnifying about 7.7x. It’s an attractive, high performance alternative to eyepiece projection. The 5x is also perfect for slowing down your scope for Hydrogen-Alpha solar observing.
  2" Powermates: 2x & 4x

                               
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These Powermates™ are a better choice for 2” diagonals than Barlows, since they are nearly Parfocal. They are threaded for 48mm filters and their performance is excellent with every 1.25” and 2” eyepiece we make (yes, even the 31mm Nagler Type 5!). Both the 2” eyepiece holder and the special 2” flat top adapter use our brass clamp rings for secure operation. And, it also has a very unique feature: you can unscrew the 2” eyepiece housing and screw on a special T-ring adapter for solid, compact attachment of CCD or camera equipment.
Excellent with long eye-relief, 2" eyepieces. Using the 4x model, imagine the quality of a 35mm Panoptic at 8.8mm with 25mm of eye relief! The Powermate™ is NOT a Barlow so the Panoptic-Barlow Interface is not needed! The 2" Powermate™ fits all the way into 2" Star Diagonals, requiring minimal refocus compared to a 2" Barlow.  Note for Dobsonian/Newtonian OwnersWhen using Tele Vue’s Paracorr coma corrector, the 2.5x or 5x Powermate™ should be inserted into the Paracorr’s 1-1/4” adapter (i.e., between the Paracorr and the eyepiece). For 2x and 4x 2” Powermates, first insert the Powermate™ into the focuser, then the Paracorr into the Powermate.
Weight
lbsPowermate
1.202.0x 2”
0.452.5x 1¼”
1.204.0x 2”
0.405.0x 1¼”
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 楼主| 白羊星座 发表于 2008-10-20 02:05 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–甘肃–兰州 电信
以下是这次主要团购的两个TV的Powermates:1.25英寸的 TV 2.5X Powermate 和 2英寸的 TV 2X Powermate 的照片

PMT-2513: 2.5x 1¼” Powermate


                               
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PS:官网的这张1.25英寸的 TV 2.5X Powermate 照片跟宣传照片的有些出入,但是实物以宣传照片中的为主,应该是这样的
2x.jpg



PMT-2200: 2.0x 2英寸Powermate


                               
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 楼主| 白羊星座 发表于 2008-10-20 02:11 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–甘肃–兰州 电信
另外如果需要 TV T环的朋友也可以跟我说,我去想办法搞来

TV的T环分3个标准的:请同好分清自己所需要的T环型号哈
Photographic Accessories
PTR-1250 1¼” PMT T-Ring Adapter
PTR-2200 PMT-2200 T-Ring Adapter
PTR-4201 PMT-4201 T-Ring Adapter



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PTR-1250: 1¼” PMT T-Ring Adapter

                               
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PTR-2200: PMT-2200 T-Ring Adapter

                               
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PTR-4201: PMT-4201 T-Ring Adapter

                               
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亨德列克 发表于 2008-10-20 02:41 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–北京–北京 歌华宽带
心动啊,可惜镜子比较烂,还是1.25英寸的,就不凑热闹了,帮顶了
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lara_croft 发表于 2008-10-20 07:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–上海–上海 东方有线
白版又在造福了,参加一个以示支持,另外希望把T环每种规格的适用范围说一下哦
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lara_croft 发表于 2008-10-20 07:42 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–上海–上海 东方有线
1.25寸的TVPM 5俺已经有了,以后再搞个2寸的TVPM 4的团购就齐了
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仙女星系 发表于 2008-10-20 09:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–重庆–重庆 电信/西南大学
持币观望,呵呵
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搜星星 发表于 2008-10-20 10:22 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–北京–北京 联通(数字北京大厦IDC机房)
想搞2" 4X Powermate,就是too贵了。

[ 本帖最后由 搜星星 于 2008-10-20 11:12 编辑 ]
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locusta 发表于 2008-10-20 10:32 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–北京–北京 中国科学院动物研究所
能不能介绍一下,用了以后焦点会后延多少,对延焦桶的长度要求。以80560为例?

[ 本帖最后由 locusta 于 2008-10-20 20:37 编辑 ]
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jerryfly 发表于 2008-10-20 10:38 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–江苏–苏州 电信
观望2.5X。。。。。。。。
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zipot 发表于 2008-10-20 10:50 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–黑龙江–大庆 大庆中基石油通信建设有限公司
好东西,观望中。2X是不是有点小?
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小小俊 发表于 2008-10-20 11:15 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–浙江–杭州 华数宽带
请问:1.25",   2 " 到底什么区别 ??普通一般折射镜子应该用那个
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天秤星座 发表于 2008-10-20 12:58 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–安徽–宿州 电信
原帖由 小小俊 于 2008-10-20 11:15 发表
请问:1.25",   2 " 到底什么区别 ??普通一般折射镜子应该用那个

2寸的同光量更大些..现在的镜子1.25寸的还是比较多的
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天秤星座 发表于 2008-10-20 12:59 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–安徽–宿州 电信
白羊一出手.就是毒品啊``没米 买来借我玩玩啊``
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zengbinhot 发表于 2008-10-20 13:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–湖南–长沙 联通
曾经在一篇帖子上看到说TV POWERMATE和TV巴罗的区别就是前者能兼顾摄影要求,后者则是纯目视用的,不晓得是否属实啊,不过到现在为止TV增倍镜好象只看到POWERMATE的系列啊
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wzyju2007 发表于 2008-10-20 17:13 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–陕西–西安 电信
纯顶!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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小小俊 发表于 2008-10-20 17:38 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–浙江–杭州 华数宽带
原帖由 天秤星座 于 2008-10-20 12:58 发表

2寸的同光量更大些..现在的镜子1.25寸的还是比较多的


都可以用吗?用在普通折射镜子上?
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liubinbj 发表于 2008-10-20 17:52 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–江西–新余 电信
原帖由 小小俊 于 2008-10-20 17:38 发表


都可以用吗?用在普通折射镜子上?


powermate搭配普消有点......色差会被严重放大的。
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搜星星 发表于 2008-10-20 18:34 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–北京–北京 联通
原帖由 小小俊 于 2008-10-20 17:38 发表


都可以用吗?用在普通折射镜子上?

不是,要和调焦筒尺寸相同。
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huang8833 发表于 2008-10-20 19:55 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–江西–赣州 电信
先顶顶。

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