suhuasky 发表于 2004-12-10 09:43

最新2004Q2亮度预报和相关资料

根据近段时间的实际观测,目前对2004Q2的预报亮度做了相应改进:
From:  "Jose Pablo" <jpab@o...>
Date:  Thu Dec 9, 2004  12:51 am
Subject:  analysis light curve 2004 Q2 MACHHOLZ


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Hello all:

Calculated the photometricals parameters 2004 Q2 MACHHOLZ , curve reduced light
of the comet ( 130 visuals observations ) , and for the 10 of January I obtain a
maximum visual magnitude of +3.4.

obtained photometrical equation : m1=4.6+5*log(del)+2.5*4.8*log(R)

m0=4.6 n=4.8

m1(10-01-2005)= + 3.4

more information web page : http://webs.ono.com/jpab

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Greetings........... J. P. Navarro Pina ......Astronomical Observatory Los
Molinos ( Murcia , Spain )




位置预报:
2004 12 11    04 38.03   -21 08.0    0.508    1.391   135.0    30.0   5.5
2004 12 16    04 28.05   -16 29.2    0.457    1.355   136.9    29.7   5.1
2004 12 21    04 17.16   -10 20.0    0.414    1.322   138.3    29.7   4.8
2004 12 26    04 05.63   -02 31.2    0.380    1.292   138.4    30.4   4.5
2004 12 31    03 53.78   +06 51.3    0.357    1.266   136.5    32.3   4.3
2005 01 05    03 41.93   +17 17.7    0.347    1.245   132.5    35.6   4.2
2005 01 10    03 30.46   +27 57.4    0.352    1.227   126.9    39.9   4.1
2005 01 15    03 19.75   +37 57.9    0.370    1.215   120.7    44.1   4.2
2005 01 20    03 10.17   +46 46.6    0.399    1.208   114.9    47.6   4.3
2005 01 25    03 02.03   +54 14.5    0.435    1.205   110.0    50.1   4.5
2005 01 30    02 55.74   +60 28.3    0.478    1.208   106.0    51.6   4.7
2005 02 04    02 51.83   +65 40.7    0.524    1.215   102.9    52.3   4.9
2005 02 09    02 51.11   +70 04.9    0.573    1.228   100.5    52.2   5.2
2005 02 14    02 54.88   +73 52.1    0.623    1.245    98.8    51.6   5.4
2005 02 19    03 05.33   +77 10.3    0.673    1.267    97.5    50.7   5.7
2005 02 24    03 26.63   +80 03.3    0.724    1.293    96.7    49.5   5.9
2005 03 01    04 07.13   +82 29.3    0.775    1.323    96.3    48.1   6.2
2005 03 06    05 21.11   +84 15.1    0.825    1.356    96.1    46.7   6.4
2005 03 11    07 12.61   +84 51.6    0.875    1.392    96.1    45.2   6.6
2005 03 16    08 58.94   +84 03.2    0.926    1.431    96.3    43.7   6.9
2005 03 21    10 07.15   +82 17.7    0.976    1.473    96.6    42.2   7.1
2005 03 26    10 46.97   +80 04.8    1.028    1.517    97.0    40.8   7.4
2005 03 31    11 11.56   +77 39.0    1.079    1.562    97.4    39.4   7.6
(注:亮度预报是老的,实际亮度要高0.5等左右)

jiangjian 发表于 2004-12-10 12:10

好啊!看来Q2离我们越来越近了!兄弟们赶快做好准备啊!最佳观测时间应该是1.10日左右,希望到时候有好天气!

星空猎人 发表于 2004-12-10 16:54

高半等啊!那极大3.5等了?好家伙!

meteorobs 发表于 2004-12-10 17:19

那个经天图有没有近期的?

meteorobs 发表于 2004-12-10 23:40

美国航天局最新的天文报告说,从现在起直至明年1月上旬,生活在北半球的人们甚至不需要借助望远镜,也能够看见在今年8月新发现的一颗较明亮的彗星。它现在所处的位置距北半球东南方向的地平线很近。然后每天它在天空中越升越高。

  这颗彗星是由道格拉斯·马可霍尔兹第一个发现的,所以用他的名字命名,而科学家给它起的“学名”是c/204Q2.它是一颗由岩石和冰组成的天体,在太阳的作用下,升华的水汽等被推到背向太阳的一侧,形成彗尾。明年1月5日和6日,这颗彗星距地球最近,只有3200万英里。

  现在,还只是很有经验的人能在无月而且黑暗的天空背景下用肉眼观测到它,而到12月11日以后,在新月较小,或月亮距彗星较远的晴天夜晚,将是观察的较好时机。在黑暗的旷野处,一般天文爱好者也可以看到它。

clearskies 发表于 2004-12-11 16:18

我们这里好像已经有人观测到了!
现在知道没有望远镜的难处了!

suhuasky 发表于 2004-12-12 09:29

最近的经天图

参考一下吧 :)

rjxie 发表于 2004-12-12 10:25

^^ 希望大家都观测下。

ljj 发表于 2004-12-12 14:02

我昨晚上在阳台上用双筒看到了。 :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

冷看星空2 发表于 2004-12-12 14:18

我昨晚上在阳台上用双筒看到了。 :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
您住在哪里?

suhuasky 发表于 2004-12-13 13:05

国外9-10号的观测
2004 Dec. 9.01 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=20', DC=7...NE...Juan Jose Gonzalez ( Aralla, alt.1440 m, Leon, North Spain) [ 7x50B: m1= 5.1, Dia.=20', DC=6; Ion tail: 0.8 deg in p.a. 355 deg, dust tail: 0.6 deg in p.a. 285 deg ]
2004 Dec. 9.03 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=16', DC=5...7x52 B...Luis Alberto Mansilla (Asociacion Santafesina de Astronomia, Rosario, Argentina).
2004 Dec. 9.08 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=15', DC=6... Dust Tail 0.2 deg in PA 280deg,...Ion Tail 0.1deg in PA330deg...11x80B...Willian Souza(Sao Paulo,Brazil)
2004 Dec. 9.29 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=16', DC=6, Tails 1.75 deg. dust and 2.75 deg. gas...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Fillmore, CA)
*2004 Dec. 9.95 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=20', DC=6...8x56 B...Rafael Benavides (Posadas, Cordoba, Spain))
*2004 Dec. 9.99 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=12', DC=5, No Tail...12x60 B...Ana Paula Correia (Esposende, Portugal)
*2004 Dec. 10.00 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=10', DC=5, No Tail...10x50 B...José Rodrigues Ribeiro (Esposende, Portugal)
*2004 Dec. 10.04 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=13', DC=3 ...Tail 0,4 deg ... 10x50B...Francisco A. Rodriguez Ramirez (Montaña Cabreja, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands)
*2004 Dec. 10.16 UT: m1=5.2, Dia= 10', DC= 5/6...10x50 B...Mariano Ribas (Planetario de Buenos Aires, Argentina)
*2004 Dec. 10.27 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=16', DC=6, Tails 2.0 deg. in PA 7 and 2.75 deg. in PA 264...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Fillmore, CA)
*2004 Dec. 10.27 UT: m1=4.4, Dia=15'; DC=6; Tail 0.5 degree dust tail....10x50 B....Eric A. Jacobson (Mesa, AZ)
*2004 Dec. 10.61 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=18', DC=5/... 10x70R ...Seiichi Yoshida (Kanagawa, Japan)
*2004 Dec. 10.61 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=20'.0, DC=4/9, 15x80B...John Drummond, (Gisborne, New Zealand) .
*2004 Dec. 10.68 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.~15', DC=5...10x50 B..Arvind Paranjpye (Pune, India)

change 发表于 2004-12-15 23:30

七楼的人兄,你用的星图软件事那个?

Astrolux 发表于 2004-12-17 12:52

能有百武彗星那么亮吗?俺不太懂啊!

suhuasky 发表于 2004-12-17 14:45

12月10-16日观测数据:
2004 Dec. 10.87 UT: m1=4.5, Dia--, DC=6...NE...T. Scarmato (Calabria, Italy)
2004 Dec. 10.88 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=20', DC=7 ...NE...Javor Kac (Trije Kralji, Slovenia)
2004 Dec. 10.90 UT: m1=5.3, Dia.=18', DC=5... 16x80 B... Radek Grochowski (Swidnica, Poland)
2004 Dec. 10.91 UT: m1=5.2, Dia.=10', DC=7,  Tail= 20'...  8cm B (11x)...Carlos Labordena (Castellon, Spain).
2004 Dec. 10.93 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=14', DC=6...7x50B...Timo Karhula (Virsbo, Sweden)
2004 Dec. 10.94 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=16´, DC=5...15x110B....Erwin Kurz (Knittelfeld, Austria)
2004 Dec. 10.97 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=20', DC=6...B 10X50...Jose Pablo Navarro Pina  (El Palmar, Murcia , Spain)
2004 Dec. 11.00 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=13', DC=6, No Tail...12x60 B...Ana Paula Correia (Esposende, Portugal)
2004 Dec. 11.01 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=12', DC=6, No Tail...10x50 B...José Rodrigues Ribeiro (Esposende, Portugal)
2004 Dec. 11.01 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=21', DC=6, No Tail ...8x56B... Jorge Almeida (Viseu, Portugal)
2004 Dec. 11.05 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=15', DC=5 ...Tail 0,5 deg ... 10x50B, Francisco A. Rodriguez Ramirez (Montaña Cabreja, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands)
2004 Dec. 11.14 UT: m1=5.1, Dia.=10', DC=6...10x50B...Mariano Ribas (Planetario de Buenos Aires, Argentina)
2004 Dec. 11.26 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=17', DC=6, Tails 2 deg. (gas) and 2.75 deg (dust)...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Fillmore, CA)
2004 Dec. 11.50 UT: m1=4.3, Dia.=20', DC=7... NE ...Seiichi Yoshida (Gunma, Japan)
2004 Dec. 11.53 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=15’, DC=5, no tail visible...10x50B…Peter Conde (Stokers Siding, NSW)
2004 Dec. 11.63 UT: m1=5.0, Dia ~15', DC=5 ...7x50B...George Di Scala, (Sydney, Australia, Carnes Hill Observatory)
2004 Dec. 11.66 UT: m1=5.1, Dia.~15', DC=5...10x50 B...Arvind Paranjpye (Pune, India)
2004 Dec. 11.75 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=27', DC=7...naked eye...Andrew Pearce (Noble Falls, Western Australia)
2004 Dec. 11.75 UT: m1=4.9...10x50 B... Hrishikesh Kulkarni(Pirangut, India)
2004 Dec. 11.77 UT: m1=5.3...10x50 B... Nilesh Puntambekar (Pirangut, India)
2004 Dec. 11.90 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=16', DC=5, Tail 1.2 deg. in PA 10 deg...15x80 B..Roberto Haver (Frasso Sabino, Italy)
2004 Dec. 11.90 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=15', DC=5 ...7x50B...Javor Kac (Kostanjevec, Slovenia)
2004 Dec. 11.90 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=15', DC=7,  Tail=60' in PA=10 deg and Tail=30' in PA=260 deg... 8cm B (11x)...  . Carlos Labordena (Castellon, Spain). Two tails. One is fine , anotherone is shorter and wider.
2004 Dec. 11.91 UT: m1=4.4, Dia--, DC=6/,.....NE....T. Scarmato (Calabria, Italy)
2004 Dec. 11.92 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=15’, DC=7, No Tail...20x80 B...Javier Temprano (Santander, Cantabria, Spain)
2004 Dec. 11.93 UT: m1=4.7, Dia=14', DC=7...7x50B... Michal Kusiak (Zywiec, Poland)
2004 Dec. 11.96 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.~15', G..Sostero (Casoni Solarie, Italy)
2004 Dec. 12.03 UT: m1=4.8, Dia=23', DC=6, No Tail ...8x56B... Jorge Almeida (Viseu, Portugal)
2004 Dec. 12.04 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=25', DC=7...NE...Juan Jose Gonzalez ( Caldas de Luna, alt. 1250 m, León, North Spain) [ 7x50B: m1=4.7, Dia.=22', DC=6; Mountain location, very clear sky. Ion tail: 2.0 deg in p.a. 10 deg, dust tail: 0.6 deg in p.a. 285 deg ]
2004 Dec. 12.08 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=17', DC=4 ...Tail 0,8 deg ... 10x50B, Francisco A. Rodriguez Ramirez (Montaña Cabreja, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands)
2004 Dec. 12.30 UT: m1=4.6, DC=6...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Fillmore, CA)
2004 Dec. 12.47 UT: m1=~5.0, Dia.=20’, DC=5? no tail visible...10x50 B...Peter Conde (Stokers Siding, NSW)
2004 Dec. 12.73 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=--, DC=7...NE...Andrew Pearce (Nedlands, Western Australia)
2004 Dec. 12.73 UT: m1=5.6, DC=5...10x50 B..Arvind Paranjpye (Pune, India)
2004 Dec. 12.74 UT: m1=4.9, Dia. =18', DC=7, Tail: gas tail 1.5 degrees in P.A. 358 degrees, dust tail 2.2 degrees in central P.A. 266 degrees...15x60 B...Mike Begbie (Harare, Zimbabwe)
2004 Dec. 12.87 UT: m1=4.8, Dia.=17’, DC=7, No Tail...20x80 B...Javier Temprano (Collada de Carmona, Cantabria, Spain)
2004 Dec. 12.89 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=14', DC=7, dust tail 0.9 deg in PA 355 deg..18x50B...Timo Karhula (Virsbo, Sweden)
2004 Dec. 12.89 UT: m1=5.5, Dia.=N/A, DC=4 ... 7x50B ... Alexei Pace (Marsascala, Malta) Large and diffuse object, easily seen in binoculars. It was dimmer than 54 Eridani, mag 4.36, to its left but brighter than TYC 5894-1943-1, mag 6.12 just below it.
2004 Dec. 12.90 UT: m1=5.5, Dia.=N/A, DC=4 ... 7x50B ... Karen Vella (Marsascala, Malta)
2004 Dec. 12.96 UT: m1=4.6, Dia=22', DC=5 ...7x50B... Javor Kac (Kisovec, Slovenia)
2004 Dec. 13.01 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=25', DC=7...naked eye...Juan Jose Gonzalez ( Sierra del Aramo, alt. 1240 m, Asturias, North Spain) .
2004 Dec. 13.02 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=18', DC=5 ...Tail 0,3 deg ... 10x50B, Francisco A. Rodriguez Ramirez (Montaña Cabreja, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands)
2004 Dec. 13.09 UT: m1=5.0, Dia.=18', DC=6...7x52 B...Luis Alberto Mansilla (OAC -Asociacion Santafesina de Astronomia, Rosario, Argentina).
2004 Dec. 13.22 UT: m1=4.5, Dia=15', DC=4,...14x100B...ADRIAN PAULO ARQUIOLA (Observatorio Astronómico Municipal de Funes, Pcia. Santa Fe)- ARGENTINA
2004 Dec. 13.26 UT: m1=4.8, Dia=20', DC=5...8x30B...Willian Souza(Sao Paulo,Brazil) [ using 11x80B m1=4.9, DC=6, tail 0.2deg in PA280deg.]
2004 Dec. 13.71 UT: m1=5.4, DC=5...10x50 B..Arvind Paranjpye (Pune, India)
2004 Dec. 13.88 UT: m1=4.3, Dia=24', DC=6... 3cm B (8x)... Sergey E. Shurpakov (Baran',Belarus)
2004 Dec. 13.88 UT: m1=4.3, Dia--, DC=7,.....NE....T. Scarmato (Calabria, Italy)
2004 Dec. 13.89 UT: m1=5.0, Dia:=20',DC=5...7x50B...Antonio Giambersio (Potenza, Italy)
2004 Dec. 13.92 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=25', DC=5,Ion tail: 2.5 deg. in PA 10 deg, dust tail 1.7 deg in PA 285 deg.... 8x50 and 20cm Schimdt/Cassegrain at 40x...Salvatore Cefariello ( Centro Astronomico Neil Armstrong) (Monte Terminio, alt. 1250 m, Italy)
2004 Dec. 13.92 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=15', DC=6,  Tail=20'... 8cm B (11x)...  . Carlos Labordena (Castellon, Spain)
2004 Dec. 13.92 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=11', DC=5, ... 15cm L f/5 (30x) . Marco Micheli (Pisa, Italy)
2004 Dec. 13.93 UT: m1=4.9, Dia.=10', DC=7,...8x50 Binocular (8x) ,...Diepvens (Balen,Belgium)
2004 Dec. 13.96 UT: m1=4.6: Dia=25' DC=6 ...NE... Javor Kac (Kisovec, Slovenia)
2004 Dec. 14.22 UT: m1=4.8, Dia=15':, DC=7...7x50B...Brian Adams (Zumbrota,MN)[~ 1 deg (presumably dust)tail was also visible, but comet set into local treeline before sketch/measurements could be made]
2004 Dec. 14.24 UT: m1=5.2, Dia.=17', DC=7, 40cm f/4.9 62x...Suresh Sreenivasan (Hopkins, Minnesota USA)
2004 Dec. 14.25 UT: m1=4.7, Dia=20', DC=6, Dust tail 0.2 deg in PA 285, ion Tail 0.2 deg in PA355...11x80B...Willian Souza(Sao Paulo,Brazil)
2004 Dec. 14.33 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=17', DC=6, Tails: gas - 5.33 deg. in PA 17 deg. dust fan up to 4.5 deg...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Lockwood Valley, CA)
2004 Dec. 14.43 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=25’, DC=7, no tail…10x50B…Peter Conde (Stokers Siding, NSW): Comet visible to naked eye. Tiny pinpoint nucleus appeared, although uncertain.  No nucleus seen 2 hours later.]
2004 Dec. 14.58 UT: m1=5.1, Dia.=~10',DC=5...11X80B...Angelito D. Sing( Makati,Philippines)[ Maybe due to the light pollution I cannot clearly discern any tail.]
2004 Dec. 14.75 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=24', DC=8...naked eye...Andrew Pearce (Nedlands, Western Australia)
2004 Dec. 14.86 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=20', DC=7...7x50B... Michal Kusiak (Zywiec, Poland)
2004 Dec. 15.00 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=25', DC=7... naked eye ... Juan Jose Gonzalez ( Sierra del Aramo, alt. 1240 m, Asturias, North Spain)
2004 Dec. 15.00 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=15', DC=6, No Tail...12x60 B...Ana Paula Correia (Esposende, Portugal)
2004 Dec. 15.01 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=13', DC=5, No Tail...10x50 B...José Rodrigues Ribeiro (Esposende, Portugal)
*2004 Dec. 15.19 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=23', DC=6/...7x50B...Brian Adams (Zumbrota, MN)
2004 Dec. 15.22 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=20', DC=5/...8x30B...Willian Souza(Sao Paulo,Brazil)
2004 Dec. 15.28 UT: m1=4.5, DC=5...10x50 B...Charles S. Morris (Fillmore, CA)
*2004 Dec. 15.88 UT: m1=4.3, Dia.=25', DC=6...7x50B... Michal Kusiak (Zywiec, Poland)
*2004 Dec. 15.90 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=16', DC=6, gas tail 1.4 deg in PA 5 deg..10x50B...Timo Karhula (Västerås, Sweden)
*2004 Dec. 15.94 UT: m1=4.5, Dia.=20', DC=5 ...Tail 0,2 deg ... 10x50B, Francisco A. Rodriguez Ramirez (Melia Tamarindos Observatory, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands)
*2004 Dec. 15.97 UT: m1=4.7, Dia.=20', DC=6,...7x50B...Alexandre Amorim(Florianopolis,Brazil)
*2004 Dec. 16.14 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=12', DC= 5/6...10x50B...Mariano Ribas (Planetario de Buenos Aires, Argentina)
*2004 Dec. 16.18 UT: m1=4.6, Dia.=20', DC=7, Tails: Ion - 2.2 deg in PA~20 deg, Dust - 0.8 deg in PA ~ 270 deg...7x50 B...Brian Adams (Zumbrota, MN)
*2004 Dec. 16.63 UT: mi=4.2, Dia. ~8', DC=6...7x50...George Di Scala (Carnes Hill Observatory, Sydney, Australia)
*2004 Dec. 16.85 UT: m1=4.3, Dia=18', DC=7... 7x50B... Michal Kusiak (Zywiec, Poland)

jiangjian 发表于 2004-12-17 17:13

很详细!顶上来!

活动星图 发表于 2004-12-17 17:29

注意!!!
2004 12 31    03 53.78   +06 51.3    0.357    1.266   136.5    32.3   4.3
2005 01 05    03 41.93   +17 17.7    0.347    1.245   132.5    35.6   4.2
2005 01 10    03 30.46   +27 57.4    0.352    1.227   126.9    39.9   4.1
2005 01 15    03 19.75   +37 57.9    0.370    1.215   120.7    44.1   4.2
2005 01 20    03 10.17   +46 46.6    0.399    1.208   114.9    47.6   4.3

活动星图 发表于 2004-12-17 17:34

能有百武彗星那么亮吗?俺不太懂啊!肯定没有

meteorobs 发表于 2005-1-5 18:26

当然不可能。。
百武彗星当年有1等那么亮,当时在我家阳台上都肉眼可见,这次的Q2最多才3等多。。

315 发表于 2005-1-6 21:52

看到。
真不错。

流星的诱惑 发表于 2005-1-7 17:07

最近天气不错,就是忙着考试。估计怎么也得1月底才能观测上
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