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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-12 15:53 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
今日是公元2010年12月12日。
Mike Canon 来自美国阿里桑拿洲,是一家公司老总,公司有业务在国内,这次来香港主要是治伤,
便想来我家玩,看看天文台。他是一位非常热爱天文的人,今晨一大早来我家坐,
我和他相处了整整半天,觉得他人很好,很nice。
本人非常荣幸他的到来。Thank you Mike !


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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-13 09:59 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
台湾:

KH:2010-12-12 17:13:06
那棟白屋 是下一個天文台嗎?


MANDII:今天 09:21:52

不,多用途房屋,或许未来也贮藏大型望远镜,说不定。 Smiley
前几天才刚建好。还有那个棚架,棚架是我自己一个人做的。
那棚架有轮子,可以很顺滑地转动竿,把帆布拉开和收起。
它的位置已予留和倆边成90度的墙壁隔开一尺半的宽度,以后会再弄花槽,种高高的树木,像那颗松树那么高的密密的,那样就成了一个空中花园,也可以挡光。
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-14 22:27 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
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今晚多云,风大....
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向往天空 发表于 2010-12-17 19:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–黑龙江–哈尔滨 联通
学习啊,必须的
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-20 22:02 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
轻轻地说声GOODNIGHT.
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-21 17:48 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
2010年12月21日11:00a.m 焊登 |ClOUDY NIGHT|


OBSERVATORY made by own -- MANDII (HONG KONG)
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbt ... /sb/5/o/all/fpart/1


Donnie : 12/20/10 09:37 PM from Western Ky
Hi, great looking setup.

Alex McConahay : 12/20/10 09:46 PM from unkown
Yes, very nice.
Should give some nice views of moon and planets. May be a bit difficult on deep sky, considering the possibility of light pollution!
Alex


Aircrftr :12/20/10 09:47 PM from Claremore OK
Very nice Mandii !! there is always great satisfaction in building things on your own. Job well done!


csa/montanaModerator : 12/20/10 09:48 PM from montana
Welcome to Cloudy Nights, and especially the Observatory Forum!
What a beautiful observatory you have! Congratulations! Thank you so much for posting such nice photos, and sharing your observatory with us!
Looking forward to hearing more from you, and your experiences with your observatory.
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Carol


David Pavlich :12/20/10 10:20 PM from Mandeville, LA USA
Welcome to Cloudy Nights! You did a great job.
David


tomtom1957 : 12/20/10 10:32 PM from Winnfield,La.
Looks really great,happy star hunting.


MANDII : 12/20/10 10:46 PM
Thank you everybody
Good DAY to ALL of YOU !!!


GeneT : 12/20/10 11:14 PM from South Texas
Beautiful observatory! Welcome fellow astronomer, from the beautiful city of Hong Kong!
GeneT
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-21 17:49 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
Cloudy nights at 12/21/10 04:23 AM

Dear ALL ,

Pls let me explain a bit of the background in building the Observatory by own .

The observatory was completely built on october 31th of ASTRONOMY year 2009 .
I decided to build it , on the right time of the year .
Structure Design started on Augest,2009 .
The design tooks time in considering the building size , the usage ,the cost ,etc ...
as much as I can think about it at that time ,for nearly 1 months time .
I had confirmed the drawings finally , the diagram draws the detail structure and size of 3 main components ,
and I passed them to 3 different local makers in a city near Hong Kong , the shenzhen(china). It that case ,
the cost was much lower . They made it according to my drawings and according my ideas talking through several meetings with them .
The 3 components consist of a Halfly-opened Dome, Iron track and a curved Door .
The 3 components must be compatible in size and can be matched well to the overall structure of the final building ,
before they are completely made and transported to my home . So , that's real difficluty at that time .
Any wrong dimension of the 3 components will cause big trouble in final stage when making the building wall .
The buiding wall is made by my uncle and me together .

In the past one year time of my astronomy hobby , I use the observatory very oftenly , I like taking photos . Though the weather is not always fine . It's always the cloudy nights . However , Finally I had decided to expand my usage of the observatory in 3 ways mainly , such that I still can use my telescope imaging system , at any time that I would like to use , to reduce the weather effect to much lower level .

The 3 ways are , First of all , I take image of the plants over the hill, the visual position of each plants is recorded down by RA and DEC scale such that I can find them easily at any time for repeatly observation . Plants imaging can be any time (day time and night time ) by using the meade DSI imager . 2ndly , I take image of the moon craters . I use the moon map to find the craters under over 100X magification . Each craters are noted down as images , by DSI imager or a self modified web cam . There are so many craters on the moon , as well as the nearby scenery on the moon surface , each one is recorded as photo . That is always a big fun .
3rdly , in some clear nights , I take images of DSO . That is a challenging task as all we amenturs can know it . So far I am still trying on the way . My first target is to use low pricing equipments( less than 3000HKD for telescope , mount and DSI-I) to catch up these DSO . I had experience in finding the DSO by simply using the RA and DEC scale of the mount . And catch them as possibily as I can do it . The method I called is 'Manual GOTO" , it can point to the object directly by using the realtive RA and DEC coordinates from the star chat . And of couse need some fine turns of the locations by hand . And finally take photo of it by using DSI-I . So far I found this way is challenging and I enjoy it very much indeed .







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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-22 09:25 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
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nytecam : 12/21/10 06:45 AM from London UK
Very smart looking domed observatory - good luck with your future observations
A query - how do you seal the two halves of the dome from rainwater penetration


MANDII : 12/21/10 09:11 AM
well , rainwater was the first priority in determine the dome structure at the beginning. The dome has two halves ( inner and outer).
Outer halve put over the inner halve , and outter halve rotates to open and close the dome . you can look at the shape of Inner halve(pic.1),typically at the top end it's tilted a bit upward (2cm). Pic.2 shows the outter halve open on top of the inner halve . Pic.3 shows the dome is closed . Note that in pic.4 , the outter halve covers more the inner halve , about 5cm more . Plus the tilted end of the inner halve , it's enough to prevent the rain penetrating .
2ndly , Pic.6 is the iron track with wheels inside , the inner halve fixed on top of the track by screws . You can see the black rubber on top surface of the track . Aims to insulate the rain .

In last summer , heavy rains always come , long lasting days . It's No big deal .

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Bob Griffiths : 12/21/10 09:35 AM from Frederick Maryland
Mandi:

It is about time you discovered these forums here at cloudy nights and especially this observatory forum... lol

I've followed you posts on another forum for quite some time and I've been impressed with your progress

Bob G


Starman27 : 12/21/10 09:43 AM from Illinois, Iowa
Mandi,

Outstanding work! Thanks for the detailed discussion and images.
Enjoy the dark,
Herman


MANDII : 12/21/10 09:52 AM
WOW BOB , the master BOB ,ha ha !!
How do you find me out here , a nice place . Ha ha .



MANDII :12/21/10 09:53 AM
Thanks everybody !
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-22 12:35 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
MANDII:12/21/10 09:50 PM

These are the drawings of the dome , track & the door .
They are all the first draft ,first version . The other latter updated drawings was lost , so pity . These drawing are not professional one indeed , cause I am not an engineer . In addition to the drawings , I need to verbally explain to those 3 makers very oftenly at same time .It takes about 2 weeks time to complete all the 3 things on nearly same timming . I collect and inspect the 3 components in one single night on 9th september of 2009 , from the 3 makers that are located very far away in Shenzhen indeed , and brought them to my shenzhen home together( pic.0) . Two days after , they were all transported to HONG KONG in a single truck .


The measurements was changed in latter stage after the first drawing , the structure of Dome and the door did change as well .

In pic.1 , originally the outter halve was thought to open and close upward and downward . However , when I consider more the strong wind influence , finally I decided to open and close horizontally in rotation manner .Meaning that the fix point(big screw) was set at the top of the dome . That is much simpler in design and stronger in striving against the big wind . And also , there is another big screw(upward) to lock the outter halve from moving . You can see the pic.1 of previous post . There is a screw hole at the front side of the inner halve . Normally , I seldom lock it . Small wind cannot move the halve easily . I only lock it on Summer time cause big storm may sometimes come suddenly .


The Iron track(pic.2) weight about 30KG . It has totally 8 wheels inside . And a hand panel ouside to push it moving .Design of the iron track was not changed much through the way . Inside the iron track , I use the lubricating mechanical Oil to make it move very smoothly . I like the mechanical sound 'lung lung' when it's moving . Very real indeed .


The side-openned door(pic.3) had been considered to hide away from the rain water as well . Typically at the side track and at the bottom track ,the water will be kept inside the bottom track and drain the inner observatory , thus I need to make some holes at the bottom track , to let water goes outward . You can see two holes on the pic.5 of previous post .

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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-23 10:51 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
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quantumac : 12/22/10 04:32 PM from unknown

Happiness is a working observatory. I've had my roll-off-roof observatory since 1995. My late step-dad helped me design and build it.

Thank you for sharing MANDII.




MANDII : 12/22/10 09:24 PM
Wow ,you made one in last century , long history , ha ha .
Yes, it always need help from one's nearest family members in doing such tough thing .Your dad help you at that time , very valuable experience with your dad ,I am sure you will not forget it through your life .Samely , my uncle helped me last year .

Frankly speaking .. . it's already a year time ,
As now I remind those hard time once again , the final stage in making up the whole building ,the real working person,or I should say the real hero at the back , who use his hand to build up this observatory ,who even don't know what astronomy and what an observatory is , is not me , is my dearest uncle indeed !

I want to say something about the real hero at the back for this observatory now ,My uncle is a man over 60's aged , still looks very young , already retired for long time .He is very strong and healthy , he was a construction labour in the old time .And he know the way to build a building wall using the bricks and cement .

This time , it's mainly done by my uncle , I was just helping to carry up heavy materials and things ,and worked as an assistance of him , some simple coating /painting in final steps I may get involved of it .He is a real person who can understand me very well . For many important things in my life , my uncle helped me a lot .. . He had helped me to make one the most important decision in my life , long time ago .. .

And this time , it was not an exception as well ...
I just told him my plan and idea in the final building .
He understand it and make it for me . Very thanks for him !!

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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-24 11:13 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
Cloudy Nights

nytecam 12/23/10 07:20 AM from LONDON UK

Many thanks Mandii for the detailed photos and explanation - well done

Being pedantic, as an architect, I'd abreviate it as a concealed upstand edge [on the inner 'dome'] and a downstand drip on the outer over-riding 'dome' to stop wind-driven rainwater penetration






MANDII : 12/23/10 10:00 PM
Rain water was the first consideration .
2nd master consideration was heat insulation from the SUN .

To me , heat insulation is a key point , why ?
Because this factor determined how much use the observatory can be . The more the observatory can be used in various ways , the more valuable a observatory is .

As you can read my first post the objective of this project written on 3rd of september ,2009 ( beginning stage).
The observatory is not only aims in Night Astro-Hunting , but also used in daytime working(making plastic models) , reading books , taking a rest , etc .. And now in real usage from the past 1 year time , it's mainly use in playing the on-line games and do some Plant observation and imaging under telescope imaging system in daytime afternoon . Or sleeping inside . It did expand at least 50% of the observatory usage , by making it cool inside in daytime .


Two ways to achieve the goal of coolness inside the observatory .
1. I choosed to use the red bricks and cement as the structure of the body .Around total 8cm thickness of the wall and ceiling , Plus the high quality(600RMB)heat insulating coating paint that was bought far away from North West China ,it can reduce the room temp. to about or more than 20 degree celcious below the outside temp. in hot summer . About this pianting ( green bucket in pic.0 of prv.post),In last summer , outside temp. was about 35degree , when you put your hand over the platform ground , it's very hot ! It could be over 50degree on the ground surface . However , when you put your hand over the outter wall surface of the observatory , it was just warm feeling ! I guess less than 30 degree . And internal wall surface was much lower than external wall surface , feeling a bit warm indeed !!! And of couse , the room is very cool . That was very amazing at that time as I experienced !


2. The door was designed to be built in South side .
This is simple , but very useful !
When the dome is opened at Northern side, and the door is opened just a little in southern side ,natural cool wind is drawn automatically into the room , feeling very comfortable .


3. By using the bricks and cement with such thickness of 8cm , it is a good Sound insulator as well .
You will feel that it looks like a Cave on the platform indeed ! The inside is kept highly silent and cool when you close the door and dome , looks like a cave . When you speaking or listenning to music from computer , you will hear the echo sometimes ,very sharp and strong base music !


Merry Christmax Everybody on every astronomy corner of the world !!




Best Regards
MANDII
2010/12/24
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-26 12:56 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-26 12:59 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-27 12:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 电讯盈科有限公司
2010年12月26日一晚(9:00-12:00)用人肉GOTO拍的4个深空
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-30 12:23 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
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 楼主| mandii 发表于 2010-12-31 14:30 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国–香港 Hknet公司
本人过往热衷于股票买卖,喜欢刀仔锯大树,大起大跌,最为刺激。
同理,玩天文也不例外,多劳多得,多发几张照片便多得文章的点激数。

这个是过去半年里于各个地方的天文论坛,文章发表的点激数统计。
一共14篇主要文章作记录,包括以"自制家用天文台 --- MANDII "的文章为首,
同时更新4(还在添加中)个地方具有代表性的天文论坛,包括香港,美国,台湾和中国。
每月4个论坛总的点激数“增长”有升有跌,本人称之为‘恒心指数“ , 粤语‘心’和‘生’是同音字,
与香港股票市场的”恒生指数“类同,哈哈!
此指数,记录于香港论坛的"自制家用天文台 --- MANDII "的文章里,每月15日查数更新。

2010年度12月份本月(图恒心5),恒心指数首次突破2万点 !!升6000多点。
谢谢大家支持!哈哈!



并祝各位新年快乐,身体健康。

MANDII
2010/12/31
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哈哈  楼顶小天文台
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